Acres USA Conference

Good afternoon. It’s always a pleasure to come to Acres, and I thank Fred and Charlie and all the staff of Acres. It’s nice to come back and see friends, make new friends, visit with people and see different things that are going on.

In listening to the speakers yesterday and today it’s very obvious that one, of course, there is a lot of interest. The bottom line, most of you are here because you’re interested in improving your crops.

I am going to look at it from a little different perspective today. I am going to make it real personal for most of you, because as a physician I am very interested in the importance of nutrition, but particularly I’m interested in nutrition relative to my patients. Bottom line is that you as farmers need to take it very personally that what you’re growing is effecting people.

Unfortunately, a lot of farmers take that very lightly. They really don’t care, and I’ve heard farmers say that it doesn’t make any difference to them what the quality of their crop is because they just sell it down the road anyway. They don’t feed it to their family so what difference does it make?

As a physician I’m telling you that you need to take it very personally what it is that you’re producing. You’re not just producing some kind of corn or beans or alfalfa or something like that. What you’re producing eventually ends up on somebody’s dinner table, and that dinner table might be your own. It might be your relatives, your friends, or it might be somebody you don’t know at all, but the bottom line is that it ends up on somebody’s dinner table.

It’s up to you to make sure that is the best quality product that you possibly can produce.

It’s interesting to note that things have really changed over the past couple of years. I can remember back in the early 80’s when we first got involved in it—my father and I and our family. It was not only uncool, as the modern term is, it was somewhat downright dangerous to admit that you were involved in alternative agriculture or alternative medicine.

Things have come a long way, and this was Thursday, October 30^th in the L.A. Times, and they’re talking about how Gerber now is coming out with a line of organic baby food. The real interesting thing, however, is that it says up here that they’re trying to figure out how to sell an upscale organic product without implying that the regular brand is riddled with farm chemicals and therefore less healthful. But you know, things have changed since, and that’s real nice because the reason they’re doing that, of course, is because of demand.

Now when you look at this, and this is from the Country Magazine. This looks pretty good. We’ve got potato salad here. We have some (Paton?) bars, and we have ice cream with some berries, and we have chicken with sliced vegetables and whatever. You look at it, and boy that really looks holistic, and it probably is really nice. So we all think, that’s really great. We’ve got all the different foods in there. We have the greens, the proteins, our fruits and vegetable, and our dairy and all that stuff, and everything should be just fine, shouldn’t it? I’ll just leave you to think about that for a minute.

Why do we eat? There a number of reasons, but basically we eat for enjoyment or habit. We eat because we need the social interaction, but the underlying thing is we really eat for sustenance.

Bottom line is as (____) talked about today is we don’t eat we don’t live very long. Granted we eat longer without eating than we would if we quit breathing or drinking water, but then the bottom line is you eat because you have to eat.

Sustenance implies adequate nutrition, however. But the thing is there is more to nutrition than just chemistry and fortunately or unfortunately, the astronauts—they have found this out with the astronauts, because when they come back a lot of them their heart muscles are decreased in size, their bone density is less. They just have a number of health problems even though they supposedly have all the nutrition.

Of course, all their food is radiated. We’ll talk about a little bit later on, too. More and more now, in fact, this last week CBS had a special on how they are pushing how important it is how important it is that we radiate food in order to protect the food chain from things like Salmonella. Yes, but we really need to protect ourselves from the government that wants to do that.

Nutrition doesn’t equal a drug deficiency. Headaches don’t equal a deficiency of Tylenol. Congestive heart failure does not equal a deficiency of Lasex which is a water pill. Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder does not equal a Ritalin deficiency which is the most common drug that is given to kids, and cancer does not equal a deficiency of chemotherapy or radiation.

Nutrition determines the gene expression, and a lot of people have a hard time with that because one of the big cop-outs with modern medicine is well, it’s genetic so there is nothing you can do about that.

Not all cobble hedges(?), proteins, fats, fibers, vitamins and enzymes are equal. The reason I am going real fast right now is that I want to get through a few things so we can get to the real core of the issue today and I’ll tell you about that in just a minute.

No nutrition is better than the biological integrity and the energetic reserve. Natural versus synthetic—well, you know, I hear this organic versus non-organic versus biological, etc. etc. and unfortunately today, some of the best as well as some of the worst produce on the market is organic.

So just because you follow a procedure does not mean that you have a better crop. The bottom line is nutrition. And that’s what most of all the previous speakers have talked about. Really, no foods have no greater nutrient density than the soils upon which they were grown which is where it comes back to you, the farmer.

For those of you in the back that can’t see that, it says, “Oh, boy. It’s dog food again.” How many of you have the same thing for breakfast at least five out of seven days of the week? If you go across the Midwest, most people have the same thing for breakfast every single day. The thing about that is, it’s not what you do eat so much as what you neglect to eat. We’re going to get into that more, because the problem that people run into is that they miss things by eating such a narrow diet, and it’s not that what they are eating is so bad. It’s just that it’s not good enough.

So what we’re going to talk about basically, is the agricultural/medicine connection. Food as medicine or poison. One person’s medicine may be another person’s poison. Unfortunately, sometimes really don’t know and it has, in addition, nothing to do with the quality of the food itself. It has to do with the individual consumer.

Ultimately it all comes back to energy.

In previous talks I have given we always talk about energy and I know Dr. Callahan always talks about energy, and unfortunately, so often it seems to be with most people that that is just one of those foo foo things out here in left and right field that really never comes home to them that well, this energy thing. Gee, I’m really not too sure about that. It’s not something I can touch or grasp, so it sounds good. It’s fun. Yeah, it’s entertaining, but I don’t know if it really has anything to do with what I’m interested in.

But the bottom line with energy is disbiosis and free radicals. You probably have heard a little bit about free radicals, at least on the news and so on about all the anti-oxidant vitamins and things like that. Well, why do you need anti-oxidants? Because you have free radicals which means you have too much of this free floating energy around here that is not harnessed.

The take home message I want you to get today is that health is a lifestyle. It’s a philosophy. It’s a state of mind. It’s a divine right. Most of you, of course, think I’m talking about human health. Well, I am, but I’m also talking about the soil. Insect pests, weeds, disease, and poor performance are due to biological imbalances that are correctable within the limits of the seasonal lifespan of the crop/animal or person.

What that means is that if you’re growing a crop of corn, at least in North America and you decide in September that you want to do something to change that crop it’s probably a little bit late. But if you decide in March that you want to do something about the upcoming crop you probably can have something to do with that.

It’s the same thing dealing with people. There are times where it’s really difficult—or more difficult—to deal with certain health issues because it’s later on in their life. Not saying you can’t do anything about it but there are a lot of choices made by that individual as we go on. I don’t believe in accidents. Disease is not an accident. Death is not an accident.

You would be surprised how many people get to a given age and they think, “Oh, well. That’s just a normal part of aging.” That’s just a normal part of getting older. I’ve passed this point or I’ve passed that point, but the problem is—and then they make choices about their decisions of their own health because they think that because they’re 60 or 0 or 80 years old well, then I should feel this poorly. That’s not true.

Interestingly enough, all of the holy books, the Bible, the Kabbalah, the Koran, the Ai Ching, all talk about lifestyle and nutrition, but unfortunately few people talk about it. Few people actually practice it. As a physician I don’t care what religion a person is when they come to me. I don’t care what their background is. I don’t care what their race is. It doesn’t matter to me, because as a physician I have chosen to take care of that person.

Now, all that background in religion and whatever, yes. Has to do with how they will act relative to the suggestions that I make to them. But as far as my suggestions to them doesn’t make any difference.

Fundamentalism really has nothing to do with spiritual wisdom. And I see this all the time. Particularly with patients coming in, and I was debating on how is it that I want to address this, because it is a touchy subject with a lot of people. The bottom line is, what I see, one of the problems going on in society today is there is a lot of preaching on a lot of things except the basic things and that is, how actually to clean up our society. How to clean up the soil. How to clean up people’s diets, because you can’t separate how you treat the soil and the crop that you’re growing for your fellow man and how you think about your fellow man. You can’t separate the two. Some people would like to think they can, but you cannot.

So when I said I want to make this very personal for you, that’s exactly what I mean, because you, the farmer, have in your hands the well being of your neighbor because you’re producing her and her food.

That’s a very important undertaking, and I hope that you don’t take that lightly. Interestingly enough a lot of people—I’ve even heard a few minister—they scorn holistic agriculture and medicine. You know, you hear minister say, “Oh, Lord, please save this person from this cancer and please help this chemotherapy and radiation, and help them.” What they should be saying is, “Lord, please give us the understanding to figure out how to balance this unbalanced system.

That’s what’s wrong. They don’t have a deficiency of chemotherapy and radiation. They have an imbalance because they have stepped outside of God’s Laws. It’s very simple. I’m not saying it’s easy to achieve that, but it’s very basic that way. What that does is that then gives the person some power to do something about their condition.

Disease is due to lack of balance, knowledge, and management with action. You can talk all day, but it you don’t take steps to change it nothing happens.

Let’s take a look at the hierarchy in nature. Or what I call the Divine Plan, because health begets survival, and disease begets extinction. What we have here as I looked at the food pyramid and I’m also looking at the food pyramid relative to dieticians and they’ll have the different kinds of food groups on there. You know, the grains and the dairy and the protein, and all that kind of stuff. But really, the underlying food pyramid is that we start at the bottom with the earth, soil, water, air, sunshine. From that we have micro flora which feed plants, feed animals, and also feed man as well. Plants feed man, animals feed man, and then what we have, however, is all these little GM’s. You know, the general manager?

Actually that’s the garbage man. The garbage man is nature. That’s God’s creation. It’s called insects and disease which recycle this system so that this food chain or this food pyramid survives. Because man is at the top of this food pyramid, as far as consumers on this planet, and if what he consumes is deficient guess what? He gets sick.

So what does man do in his ultimate wisdom? He depletes the soils so that he grows sick crops so he poisons the insects that should clear out the sick crops. He eats those sick crops and then has to have drugs and the same kinds of poisons in order to keep nature’s garbage collectors from also clearing him out. tt is a perfect system, and if you understand how all these things connect you can then do something about them.

A real caveat to this is that as nutrition goes down so does the ability of man to think. And, as a result his actions become more primitive. You wonder, how does that work? Well, as you lose your ability to do things what becomes most important? Survival!

The most important component of survival is obtainment of food. If your body is starving and the brain is starving the message that whole system is conveying is “I’m starving. I have to obtain something to survive.” So you get a lot of primitive behavior. Do you think we have much primitive behavior today? Some

I’ll tell you, ADHD—attention deficit hyperactive disorder—is not due to some drug deficiency. It’s due to the brain not getting the proper nutrition and then getting too much toxicity. I am going to give you a couple of examples of that and the end is absolutely blow your mind. Not that we have 100% success. We don’t.

Real key to this whole system, though, is the decision making process. It doesn’t matter if you’re in agriculture or if you’re in medicine. The thing about it is it’s the same. It’s the same decision process, and basically you’re looking at my spelling (chuckle). The allopathic or war mindset. Simply means that you problem solve by violence—death, force, conquest. The thing about it is all of them are temporary. All you have to do is think back to the DDT era. How many of you remember back to the 50’s and 60’s? I know Dr. Callahan does because he did a lot of research on that.

Do you remember that they said that DDT is—oh my goodness—it’s a miracle. It’s going to clear out all the mosquitoes and houseflies. How many of you have experienced that today that all your mosquitoes and houseflies are gone?

But that’s the allopathic mindset, and the thing about it is, it’s only temporary. But we’re paying some very dear prices of that today.

If you’re looking at the holistic or diplomatic mindset we’re really looking at problem solving by management innovation, improvisation, logic, intuition, love, and results. The results are permanent, and it is the difference between crisis management versus integrative management.

Integrative management really is the KISS principle. Keep it simple, stupid. And I find that as I go to school more and more I know less and less. Pretty soon I’ll go to school long enough so I know nothing.

The key really is the energy is the basis of everything. It’s the basis of all cells. It’s the basis of all tissue, organs. Just to give it to you in something you may be able to relate to. Electricity—it’s energy—is something we use to drive our power tools with. It’s relatively clean energy. The petroleum fuels that we use to drive our engines, well, that’s not quite as clean. You have exhaust problems with that. And finally, the fire wood used to burn to heat our homes, that’s real dirty. There is a lot of soot. Finally our food that we burn to get energy for ourselves, tissue and organs, and body. That’s also not so clean. What am I getting at?

Well, the bottom line is that the exhaust or smoke from all these systems of energy production utilization produce free radicals, or exhaust. What does that mean?

Free radicals: are unharnessed energy that has been liberated or broken loose from burning something. In some cases it’s real clean. In other cases it’s real dirty. The bottom line is we still have free radicals out there. That is the energy that causes, or destroys tissue. If we look at the life cycle we start with sunlight or basically the photosynthetic processes, and we integrate all of those together and end up with protein, carbohydrate, fats, and fiber. But in that process we kick off some free radicals. In other words, some energy is liberated.

What happens to that energy? Well, that energy either goes into our defense mechanism. It’s a very important part of our bacterial defense system or our immune system, but some of it is captured by anti-oxidants. You probably have heard of things like vitamin E, and vitamin C, and vitamin A, and Co-Q10 and so on and so forth. But there is a number of them you haven’t heard of that I’m going to talk about and that link up very closely with what Wendell and Dr. Skowen(?) and other people have talked about and that’s carbohydrates.

At the same time if we don’t have enough anti-oxidant in the system then we get all this free energy out there, then we get damage, because we have this little spark. If you think for a moment, a welder. Most of you know what welding is. I learned how to do that at a fairly young age, and if you’re welding along—one thing you don’t want to do it in is bare feet. What happens if you do it in bare feet? Well, those little sparks hit the feet and they burn. They burn through the skin. Those sparks that fall into the dirt and smolder out, that’s no big deal.

Think of the dirt like an anti-oxidant. So it captures that spark. It smothers it out no problem, but when you don’t have enough anti-oxidants it’s like that spark from the welding getting on your foot and burning a hole through it. That’s the kind of damage that I’m talking about. At the same time, then, this kind of damage very slowly is what aging is. Disease, and eventually death.

Moving on down then, we end up with the consumer eats these things. Well, in that process then, we’re eating it for repair products as well as cell maintenance just to keep us going.

And then finally, what we’re really using it for is for fuel, nutrition, and sustenance. It’s burned. At the same time it’s burned it gives off free radicals again. Again, those free radicals can cause damage in the system. They can be picked up by anti-oxidants and recycled, or they’re re-utilized by our defense mechanism. Because free radicals is a defense mechanism by which phagocytosis takes place. In other words, your white blood cells capture bacteria. It’s free radicals that they use. Super-oxide radicals in order to kill the bacteria.

That’s how free radicals simply unharness energy. They’re not good or bad. They just are. The application determines the result of what happens with these. It’s kind of a two-edged sword.

Where do we get these things? There’s a number of sources. One, if you have the inefficiency of burning the fuel. You know, if your engine is not tuned quite right you get a lot more smoke.

Well, in the body or the biological systems you have missing catalysts like phosphate, for example, or vitamins or some other mineral. You may have just poor fuel. It’s not any good to begin with. Most of you are very well aware of that relative to running engines. There is a different quality of fuel that you can buy, whether or not they put a little water in it or some of the different ingredients that they may or may not put in the fuel. Or you may simply have a poorly tuned engine. It’s inefficient.

In living systems maybe it’s aged. Maybe it’s diseased. But a real important thing here is heavy metals. And that’s something we’re going to talk about. In fact, later I want to talk a little bit about colloidal mineral issue, but free radicals are a major, major problem because of heavy metals. Those two are so closely linked because heavy metals generate free radicals in the system.

In any of the Midwest, particularly, your first risk is living there. You’re at risk for exposure to heavy metals. They used to use lead arsenates for a lot of the pesticides. The news about two weeks ago was that all the central area of Michigan water wells are very high in arsenic. The government used cadmium back in the 60’s to test on the populace to see what the result would be of heavy metals.

The dentists for 150 years put mercury into peoples’ mouths. All of those are heavy metals. All of those are poison. Each person is going to react a little bit differently to them. Some people may be able to tolerate them and excrete them better than other people, but they are a significant problem today.

Inevitably, at least 9 out of 10 cancer patients have a heavy metal problem. Probably 80% of the Parkinson’s and MS patients have a heavy metal problem. I am going to give you an example of one later today. It was absolutely phenomenal the change in this gentleman.

The second reason or source we get from free radicals is we simply have an inadequate anti-oxidant system. We don’t have enough of the anti-oxidant vitamins. Why? Because of malnutrition.

Poor nutrition. What we are getting doesn’t have it in it. Excess radiation, and that brings up the issue of radiating food. What happens is, when you radiate food is you create free radicals in the food itself. Radiation does another thing that you won’t find chemically, and what it does is reverses some of the left/right hand spins of the molecules.

Many of your fats—most of your fats—all of your fats in nature are (SIS?) In other words, they are polar. You have a positive and negative end. When you radiate them, when you heat them, you cause them to go to tran so they’re opposites, and now you have taken away the polarity of the fat molecule. Your brain is 50% fat. When a baby is born the doxyhexanoic acid (DHA) is the primary fatty acid of the baby’s brain. If the baby doesn’t get enough DHA the brain doesn’t develop properly, and they have learning disabilities.

You get any DHA from milk. You get it from mother’s milk—breast milk—but only if mom has the right diet. Very important when you start looking at some of the disability problems or learning disabilities of some of these children. What kind of diet did Mom have while they were breast feeding and a lot of them didn’t breastfeed so they didn’t even have DHA in their formula.

The last thing is, you can get it simply from stress. Why? Well, stress from the environment, stress from diet, stress from attitude or choice.

Excess free radicals are really sparks. So, if you look at it from two different points of view as far as problem solving, if we look at the soil. If we have too many free radicals we have oxidation of organics. In other words we burn out organics. We have dehydration and we have increased salts in the soil.

So what happens is, on the allopathic side is, well, you just need more water. Simple to solve that, isn’t it? When water is about $50 to $250 per acre foot. Real easy to solve that one, isn’t it? If you have enough money.

Add more salt. And then finally, get new land. Which is what a lot of people have done. However, if we’re over on the integrator side what do we do? First we have to evaluate the situation. We can’t jump to a conclusion.

Next thing is, look at better water management. Then we increase our biotics and manage them properly. Increase our organics but we can’t do that if we don’t increase our biotics. And finally, we have some tillage management which has already been discussed a little bit today. What I am wanting to do is bring this together so that you’re looking at issues in the soil are not really that much different than issues in your own body and how we approach them.

In the plant, if we have too many free radicals we have cell breakdown, rot. We have insect damage and disease. So from the allopathic side that’s easy to fix. We just get a new hybrid. We put more poisons on, or we radiate it. That’ll fix everything.

If we’re on the integrative side, first of all, again, we’re going to evaluate the situation. Really, where are we at? We’re going to increase our nutrition. We’re going to balance our biotics and improve our management.

Unfortunately, what I’ve seen, both in medicine and in agriculture that last thing is very difficult for people to do because basically they are used to going out, calling their extension agent, asking well, gee. What is it I put on? Calling the grain elevator and asking them to come out and apply the fertilizer. They plant it, they spray it then they go play golf or go to the coffee shop or whatever until September, October, November, and then they go harvest. And wonder, gee, what’s happening out here?

So when you say increased management that means you have to get into the field. You have to walk the field. You actually have to do things, and a lot of people don’t want to have to do that kind of management. They don’t want that close of a link with what it is they’re producing. And I guess if you have no connection with your consumer—in other words, you really don’t care about the health and well being of your consumer, then I guess as long as you stay at arm’s distance of what you’re producing it’s probably can live with yourself easier that way I guess. I don’t know.

Now for human health.

What’s happening with excess free radicals? Well, what we have is aging and dehydration. We have vessel injury called atheroschlerotic vascular disease—hardening of the arteries; plaque build up.

What’s lipid peroxidation? That means that we get rancid oils. Actually the oils in our brain and nervous system become rancid because we have too many free radicals so they break down. So we get plaque build-up and we get C&S problems. Now they’re central nervous system problems. We get things like memory loss, Alzheimers, ALS which is Lou Gherig’s Disease, Parkinson’s.

We have nerve damage, so again we get MS, Parkinson’s, ALS. We have decreased blood flow which means we get eschemia. Or claudication, as we call it medically, which means that your muscles hurt in your legs when you walk, or you get angina pain. Angina simply means you’re not getting enough oxygen supplied to the heart muscle with exercise.

That’s no problem. On the allopathic side we just take the organ out. That solves it, doesn’t it?

Of course, there’s AIDS, but cancer is an immunity problem.

Then we have self-intoxication.

Self intoxication basically are things like arthritis, fibromyalgia, ADHD, depression.

Finally we get fuel exhaustion and fatigue hormone problems, and ultimately death.

So how do we solve this system? Well, on the allopathic side we cover up the symptoms, we get stronger drugs. We cut, burn, and poison it. We discredit the patient and say it’s all in your head and give them an anti-depressant and stick them in some institution And then finally, we bury them. It works. It is working.

If we’re on the integrator side, first of all, again, we evaluate. We find out what’s going on. We then decrease the stressers. That doesn’t mean you have to change your job. That means we decrease those things that physically and emotionally are causing stress on the body like McDonald’s, hamburgers. Or Wendy’s, whatever, you know.

Nutrition. We have to increase the nutrition. We have to balance the biotics. We have to treat the patient, not the disease. See, over on the allopathic side all we do is treat the disease. On the integrative side we have to treat the patient. This is a human being we’re dealing with. This is a living system. We treat the person.

We demand participation. In other words, you as a patient have to become educated. You as a patient have to take an active role in your disease or health. Just like you, as a farmer, have to take an active role in your farm in order to change it, because your farm reflects you, and you reflect your farm. Because, the way you think determines what kind of decisions you make in all of your life.

Then we apply every appropriate therapy. Whatever works, really. That’s the bottom line.

In the soil we do the H and P—history and physical. It’s not just in a medical field, but one thing that going to medical school and dealing with patients has shown me is that the things I do in the soil I basically have to take the same approach. I have to do a history and physical. Where am I? I have to see what’s going on currently, which means I have to get in the field, I have to see what the crops look like. I have to test. Then I have to determine, where do I want to go? It’s like Dr. Skousen earlier today—if you don’t have a plan nothing works.

You have to know where it is you want to do. So first you determine where you are and then you have to determine where you want to go. And there are a lot of ways to get between A and B. If you don’t know either one no plan works; no direction works. So we have to know where are we and where do we want to go?

Then what we’re going to do is we’re going to test and we’re going to do it frequently. We have to do it frequently. Things like CGS meters We do conductivity. We do refractometer. We observe. We get in the field. We feel the soil. We look; we listen. And it doesn’t mean we listen to the stereo at 55 mph as we drive down the road looking out the windshield. It means we’re actually out in the field listening to the insects, the birds. Did you ever notice that in a sterile field you don’t hear many birds? It’s different. The whole area is different.

Next thing is we have to study and take responsibility for what it is that we’re going to do or did do. But study. We always have to learn new things.

The next thing we have to do is act. It doesn’t happen by itself, and then retest. What happened based upon my actions.

Finally, enjoy the journey.

In the human side, it looks kind of familiar. We have to do the H and P/history and physical. Where are we? And where do we want to go?

Maybe this person coming to me—this patient really doesn’t want to get well. Maybe there’s another agenda involved here. Do you ever notice how many elderly people get attention when they get sick? From the family? But they don’t get attention if they’re not sick? So if that elderly person gets well, do they feel abandoned? In many cases, yes. So there are some underlying things that have to be dealt with here.

We have to evaluate. In the medical field what does that mean? And some of these things you probably have never heard of, because these are not conventional testing things that we do. But what it is, these are analogies to the soil tests and various tests that I discussed earlier.

I’m going to do a hair analysis with blood. I want to know what’s going on with heavy metals. That’s the most important thing out of the hair analysis is heavy metals.

I do a detox 2. What is that? That is a test out of N. Caroline, and what it does is actually checks how the digestion is doing. How is the gut absorbing or not absorbing nutrition? In other words, do I have leaky gut? Leaky gut means I am picking up things that I shouldn’t be picking up, and then how does the liver handle it, because all the toxins that go into the body the liver has to detoxify. One of the problems we’re finding with all the pesticides and so on, is that nature doesn’t have any enzymes that are appropriate to detoxify these things. So it’s perplexed. It makes it really difficult to detoxify some people.

But I have to know, how is the liver really functioning relative to detoxification? Because the free radicals are what causes a lot of problems.

I do a stool analysis Not for ovum and parasites, although sometimes I may, but usually I do it for digestion. Are you digesting your food? What kind of organisms do you have in there? Do you have too many of the undesirables and not enough of the desirables?

I do what is called an IGG foods with candida. IGG: immuglobuline G. In your body you have a number of different anti-bodies that are produced. That’s called IG’s or immuglobulines. And they’re IGG, IGA, IGM, IGD. Each one has a different function.

IGG is more the long-term one. What we find is, people who have a little bit of a leaky gut—in other words they absorb things they shouldn’t because they’ve had antibiotics, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories like Ibeprophen, Motren. What it does is makes the gut more permeable so they absorb things that they shouldn’t. One thing they do is put on weight which the cattle industry has known for a long time. In other words, if you give low levels of antibiotics they gain weight faster because you cause a leaky gut. Because it causes toxicity in the system and you put weight on.

It works. Of course, they slaughter the animals for you to eat before they would die on their own. That works, too.

I am checking for IGG foods because it doesn’t matter how the food is, if you are reacting to that food because you have just had oatmeal seven days a week, 365 days out of the year for 50 years, there is a good chance that your IGG antibody level to oatmeal is very high, which means you are reacting to that and it is causing inflammation in the system. This is one of the most common things we find with arthritic patients.

We do what is called a Pantox. The reason I underline that is a Pantox actually checks antioxidant levels. It checks the vitamin A, the vitamin E, the vitamin C, the Co-Q10 and a number of others. A couple of them that are really important as I said I would come back to Carbohydrates. A couple of the antioxidants that it checks are glucose. So you wonder in your plant, why is it that if I have a higher brix reading that I have a better crop? Why is it I have fewer insects? Because glucose is a very strong antioxidant.

When plants get too much free radicals tissue is damaged and then the plant is giving off signals that collect the insects—bring the insects in. If you have the sugars up, not only does that correlate to a nutritional improvement, it also correlates to better free radical scavenging. In other words, free radical collection. So you have less energy loss from that crop. Same thing in the body.

The other reason we check Pantox is that inevitably, cancer patients have a low antioxidant level. That’s what AOA is, antioxidant assay. We get that up and their immune system works and they miraculously seem to get better. But we have to take the stress off. We have to find out why are those antioxidants down? Why are they low?

People wonder about cholesterol. Cholesterol is the other strong antioxidant. When you have a lot of free radical damage in the system it causes tissue damage in the vessels. So the body is going to try to protect those vessels from those burns. Remember the sparks from the welder? It burns your foot? Same thing in the body. These free radicals cause damage inside of the tissue. So the body is going to try to protect that.

Cholesterol goes up. Great, so you get a cholesterol lowering drug. Have you done anything about the free radicals? No. Cholesterol is plan B, or plan C for the body. Plan A, of course, is regular antioxidants.

Let’s understand what is really going on. As I said, it goes back to energy. Back to real basics.

We also do a vascular. We want to know actually how much blood flow. I don’t care how big the pipe is, I want to know how much actual blood flow I’m getting through the pipe.

I do a blood panel. Basic things. I want to know what’s going on with the thyroid. Platelet aggregation. We look at platelet aggregation because that stickiness, most of the time the doctor will just give you aspirin. I check a number of other things in addition to that. Why? Because aspirin is only one component of platelet aggregation. Platelet aggregation means that is a part of your blood that starts sticking together. Makes the blood thicker—heart attack and strokes as a result.

Homocystine. Probably the best functional indicator of B12, B6, and folic acid. We can draw blood and check you for B12, B6, and folic acid and say, Oh, it’s normal. But if your homocystine level is elevated you have a deficiency functionally of those, so we give it to you. It’s a very strong free radical.

We do lipoprotein A. Another indicator of cardiac disease. We may do amino acids. We may do pesticides. And we may do hormones.

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..and I don’t know how well that comes in for you, but if you look, what you’ll find is that what comes in, and of course, over here we’re looking at the typical American diet. We have a number of different drugs, and McDonalds or Wendy’s or whatever. The fries and all of that. People are saying, what’s wrong with that? We have the grain there. We have our protein there. We have our dairy there and let’s see, we have our carbohydrate there, and oils. What’s wrong with that?

Well, the french fries are fried in oil so what we have now is we have a Trans-fatty acid instead of a Cis. Trans fatty acids are poisonous, but the body for lacking Cis fatty acids will substitute with a Trans. So now you have a deficient nerve cell, and also it’s very high in free radicals.

Basically, potatoes have very little nutrition in them. Lot of carbohydrates so it will shove the sugar up. In a McDonald’s hamburger, of course, you have the Wonder Bread bun, and you wonder if there’s anything there. And there is. There’s a lot of poison.

Then, of course, you have the beef which is the lowest grade of beef that you possibly can purchase and what kinds of things now? Well, they’re finding Salmonella and e. coli and some of those kinds of things, so they’re going to fix that. They’re going to irradiate it so you won’t have to worry about it. Because all that is screwed up we have to take some drugs in order to overcome them, and then over here is a little bit different diet.

We’re looking at more fresh things, but really, if we look at the gut, the gut is not much different than the soil. What this is depicting is simply that on the left we have a well balanced gut. All these little squiggley things here are the beneficial microflora. The beneficial microflors in there are what protect it from the larger parasites and unwanted organisms. On the right is a gut lacking the beneficial microflora, so what do we get? We get invasion by your undesirables, as well we have a leaky gut. So we can get junk through into the bloodstream that now the liver has to detoxify.

So it still goes back to biology. Same thing in the soil. If we have a good enough positive or desirable biology we can protect the system.

Here’s detoxification. See all this stuff at the top going in as our detoxification. Well, if we’re looking at it from a free radical point of view we have a gut that takes in all these toxins. It has to go to the liver. Liver has to detoxify this system and if it can, obviously it does, and you urinate off the toxin.

Generally, it cannot, so what happens is you get a tremendous amount of free radical production, because the body doesn’t have enough nutrition building blocks to carry that entire system through and correct that problem.

Well, I realize that some days seem kind of dreary. Can you see the day’s activities here? If you can’t read that. Let’s see, “slave ship daily schedules” here. Of course, life may seem like that. In the schedule we do have a break, though. We do have some aerobics we’re going to throw in.

Anyway, there are some really nice things we can look at in nature, and it is very important that occasionally we make sure we don’t get too serious about things in that we realize sometimes we just need to take a break, step back and just think about it for a while and know that despite all the problems there are things that can be done.

As long as we go back to basics and we simply need to again, evaluate, where are we? Where do we want to go? Test, or collect some data. And then figure our a plan, act on that plan, and enjoy the journey. Sometimes it’s important sometimes to just take a break.

Well, I said I would give you some examples of these things? In a nutshell, coming back, what are we talking about?

Free radicals and biological systems or dysbiosis can really sum up what it is that we need to do. If we have too many free radicals, as I showed you, we have a number of different disease problems.

We had a gentleman who was about 40 years old. Came into the office, couldn’t walk. He was in a wheelchair. He’d been diagnosed with MS. He had had an MRI of the brain and that had confirmed that he had MS. Of course, there is nothing to treat him with. There are a few drugs that they give to slow things down or help with symptoms a little bit, but really there’s no treatment.

Well, we checked him for heavy metals and he had mercury. Chelated the mercury out of him and the guy is normal today. He came in the office the other day and he said, “Is this the clinic that makes people well instead of sick?”

Basically he got his life back. And I can’t say that all MS patients have a mercury problem, but this gentleman really didn’t have MS. What he had was a mercury toxicity.

We had an 18-month-old baby that was nursing. Had excema over 100% of this baby’s body since birth, and this kid was miserable, and you can imagine how miserable Mom was, because Mom also have a 2-year-old that she was taking care of, and she was trying to home school three children plus having this 18-month-old and this child and Mom were absolutely miserable. I know a lot of you ladies out there have had children can relate to that, and probably some of you Dads can, too She had been to trying to do it naturally. Had been to a couple of doctors, and whatever. Of course, it was either a deficiency of antibiotics or it was a deficiency of steroids or something like that tthat was really…they were trying to tell her.

So we did something called an IGG foods on Mom. Not baby, Mom. Baby was nursing. So all of the reactions had to be coming from Mom. We tested Mom. Had Mom eliminate those foods to which she tested positive and within a week to 10 days, 90% of the excema was gone that quickly.

So there can be some tremendous changes. We’re going to do some other supplementation of the selenium and some B vitamins and things like that. Sometimes it’s so basic we forget those as Dr. Skow(?) was talking about. You have to go back to really basic things. Air, food, water type of thing.

Had a lady come in 77 years old. Had Leukemia. Basically her doctors told her she should just go home, and they gave her the number for hospice and said, “We’ll try to make you as comfortable as we can in your final, dying days.

She had heavy metals, and her legs, you couldn’t tell any difference between her thighs and the rest of her legs, all the way down including her ankles. They were all the same size. Just one solid swollen leg. So, we cleared out a few things, gave her some nutrition, chelated her. I had her wear a compression stocking. The last test I did on her which was on a week or weeks ago, all but one of her liver enzymes was totally back to normal. She had liver cancer. All of her liver enzymes were back to normal except one and that one was on its way down. It was only like two points out of the normal range.

Needless to say she was pretty happy. She didn’t even think she would see Thanksgiving.

Migraine headaches are very common. Foods, generally. Lot of people have migraine headaches. Almost inevitably I can say 80-90% of those are foods. I don’t mean to say that this is real simple because a lot of times you get patients, a lot of times there is more to it than that, but as a rule often times it is just that simple. Not necessarily that easy, but it is that simple.

Autism. A lot of children nowadays have a problem with that. We had a 4-year-old child that came in diagnosed Autistic. This kid had seizures, was on seizure medication. And of course, major learning disability. There were a couple of other things wrong. Forget what they were. Did a foods on this child and the kid also had arsenic. Chelated the arsenic out. Eliminated the food the child was reactive to and it’s now a normal 4-year-old child. Totally normal child without medications. Wee see a lot of those.

Impotence. Sexual relations are very important to good marriages, and most doctors will say, ah, gee. That’s just normal aging.

Wrong! That may be common, but it’s not normal. Generally speaking we find it’s a vascular issue most of the time. It is correctable. It is reversible.

Allergies, again, it usually goes back to foods even if you’ve got a lot of environmental allergies. Usually it’s food.

Crohn’s disease is usually a leaky gut problem. Again, it goes back to the biosis, and you have to correct that.

I want to come back to the antioxidants and radiation in must a moment.

In summary, health is a natural state of being that we started with. It was kind of my take-home message. It requires fortitude and independence. It’s a lifestyle, not a religion. It’s a state of mind. It’s a philosophy, and it’s a way of thinking and solving problems. Health is a Divine right, and in that, energy is the currency.

Well, there are a few added topics I wanted to conclude with.and radiation is one of them. Bob asked a question earlier relative to why did it surprise Wendell that the cattle were eating larger quantities of a better quality product. It doesn’t surprise me in any way, because usually, if people have to heal or if they’ve gone for a while without adequate nutrition they need more nutrition in order to reverse the process, and to heal what’s been missing for quite some time.

So usually, as well, we put people on a lot of nutrition when they come in. I don’t see healthy people usually. Most of the people I see are sick. That’s why they come to a doctor, right? So we put them on a lot of nutrition. That’s usually the case.

Radiation basically causes a lot of free radicals. As I mentioned earlier, that causes damage in the system and not only that, that means you’re eating something that gives you a net energy loss rather than net energy gain. When you consume it, so it costs you energy.

I talked about the anti-oxidants being in the system. Sugar, uric acid, cholesterol, and an interesting thing that we have found. Actually Dr. Born who is my boss and partner has found in cancer patients generally don’t—not 100% of the time, but generally don’t convert beta-carotene to vitamin A. So they can be drinking a gallon of carrot juice a day. They can be yellow with so much beta-carotene and still be deficient in vitamin A. Because for some reason they’re not converting beta-carotene into vitamin A.

We find that in the Pantox. That’s why we do Pantoxes a lot.

Well, there are a couple of things that I, as a physician, and since I have the podium, as Wendell says.

I want to address colloidal minerals. There has been a lot of talk about colloidal minerals being so much better, and they go in and they’re assimilated. You don’t have to worry about the heavy metals because they’re protected.

Well, we have to go back to a lot of common sense here. If calcium in its colloidal form goes in and is assimilated, then why isn’t cadmium? If it’s in the same form it doesn’t make sense, because the body doesn’t react with pure colloidal things anyway. They’re ionic.

Heavy metals is a serious problem, and one of the major things we have in our practice with sick people with degenerative diseases are heavy metals. So, if you are taking a so-called colloidal product and it is loaded with heavy metals, I suggest you think seriously about that decision.

The Gulf War Syndrome. There have been a lot of articles about that. We have a at one of the medical conferences I went to, a man named Garth Nicholson, bot the Institute of Molecular Medicine in California. There is the telephone number if you want to contact him. His daughter had Gulf War Syndrome.

She was in one of the units that was in the Gulf. One thing he found, and is not allowed, but he found about forty to fifty percent of people with Gulf War Syndrome—this is not a farce. What they had is mycoplasmos. And they have a new strain of mycoplasma—a new strain that the U.S. Military developed for biological weapon purposes. You cannot find it with typical analyzation. They can only do it with a special kind of generic tracking. They can find it. That’s why it is also contagious and their children are getting it. It’s contagious.

And it is very difficult to treat, but it can be treated. But that’s not 100%. It’s only about 40 or 50% So what do you do about the other 60%? Well, we don’t know. We just have to look at the basics and try to help them.

One reason that’s another issue with me is because I am also a physician in the Airforce Reserve. So I am involved in some of that, so it is an issue.

The other thing I wanted to do is discuss the numbers game that I know a lot of people are hoodwinked with a lot of credentials that come from the universities. The numbers game is that they tell you that pesticides are not a problem because we find them in the environment, and they’re only found in parts per billion. Parts per trillion. That is such a small amount of pesticide in the water and the food. They couldn’t possibly be any consequence.

Well, that’s real easy to convince people who, unfortunately, had the opportunity to know that if you analyze hormone levels in a normal human being, and this happens to be a real test where I scratched the name on here. But we’re looking at estrodile. That’s an estrogen, and we’re looking at here. Her level was 9. Now that’s 9 picograms per milliliter. That’s parts per trillion. Of course the normals here are 21 to 38 in one phase. Basically, my point here is that when they tell you that pesticides—and most of the pesticides have estrogenic effects on living systems. In other words, they mock estrogen hormones.

So when they tell you that finding pesticides in parts per billion or parts per trillion is not worrisome, or is of no consequence then ask them, what is the normal level of estrogen in a woman. It’s in parts per trillion. When you find pesticies in parts per trillion, do you think it’s of any consequence? Of course it is. But they can play games with numbers when you aren’t informed about, well, where else do those numbers apply? So that’s why I’m telling you this, that they can easily hoodwink you into believing things that are not necessarily true.

Finally, I have a request. There’s been some preliminary research done showing that in one particular thing involved, and is why I mentioned a baby’s brain is 50% DHA, Dodoxyhexanoric(?) acid. The interesting thing that this brings that it appears that grass fed beef has DHA but green fed beef does not. I’ve only seen one study on that, so my request is, that boy, that would be something very nice to be able to further verify it. As well as other fatty acids and nutrition. I have a request to those of you who are growing truly grass fed beef or chickens, or whatever other animals, that we get your product tested by a lab that does essential fatty acid analysis. I can’t afford to have all of it done, because the tests are anywhere from $250 to $500 in order to do that.

It would add significant credibility to the claim that organic, grass fed beef or chicken or eggs or whatever else it is that you’re growing is truly more nutritious, because there is a difference, and as I said, that one thing with brain development on children—the only place a baby gets it is through mother’s milk unless there is a supplement that specifically has that added.

DHA seems to be something that is found in grass fed animals.

Q: (inaudible)

A: Cod liver oil. In some cases. But it may not contain enough, depending on the qualify of the cod liver anymore.

Okay, he’s saying go to US P grade. We can usually find that.

Provided that Mom doesn’t have an IGG reaction to fish.

What I want is, if you would give me a call, because that is my office number there. If you’re interested in getting yours tested. What they need is that we have to send them all in at the same time. They will run a batch doing—this is a human testing lab, but they will test food products for me if I bring it in in a batch. They won’t just do one at a time if we send one here, and we send one here. They said they would do it if we did it all at once so we need to coordinate that.

Basically I’m interested in the proteins right now. This would be essential fatty acids, so we’re looking at beef, chicken, eggs, turkey. Those kinds of things.

Q (inaudible)

A: We’ll have to coordinate that. Yes, they have to be frozen, special container and whatever. They have to be collected and sent to the lab overnight.

With that, I would appreciate it if we could do that and I do promise that that information would be published in ACRES, and it’s something that has not been done, and certainly you’re not going to find any of the chemical companies interested in funding a study like that. Nor are you finding very many universities interested in doing anything like that, because they have a vested interest in not having organics out there.

Anyway, I do thank you very much. Tomorrow we will talk about radionics, so we’re just going to continue the energy thing. If there are any question feel free to ask. Yes.

Q: (inaudible)

What causes Mad Cow Disease? She is referring to Jacob Crutschfeld Disease which is a similar system. The Mad Cow Disease that is in Europe is technically not Jacob Crutschfeld Siease. Bovine Encephylitis is what they’re calling it. What it is is a little protein, smaller than a virus called a pryon and it is something that seems to cross through the digestive system. It is in the meat, apparently, and it is transferred from animal to animal, and they have found out now it is transferable from animal to human. They said it goes through to the consumer.

I guess I only know what I’ve only had personal contact to once when I was in England about eight years ago, and a physician who had been dealing with it and other is what I’ve read. What I’ve read is that it is a significant problem, but it’s pretty easily corrected by simply quit feeding animals animal protein—dead animals. You know, cows were never meant to be cannibals. That’s basically what you’re doing. Neither were sheep or any of those animals, so we can stop that. But of course, it’s a monetary driven issue, not a common sense driven issue.

The thing that I did was experienced with was over there I took a class from a homeopath in England. He had had a couple of cases of the Mad Cow Disease over there. He said he was able to correct that. Of course, he did it with a number of things. He did it with radionics. He did it with homeopathics. He did it with nutrition. It’s not an easy thing to turn around, but it is something that can be done. I’m not saying necessarily that we can or have to do that here, but you know, we can get really paranoid about all the different things out there—all these little critters waiting around the corners waiting to pounce on us. At the same time what you have to realize is that the more deficient the system is, the more susceptible it is to all of these things. And the reverse is also true.

I don’t believe in accidents. I simply don’t believe in accidents. Everything has a perfect cause and effect. You may not be aware of what they cause and effect is, but it’s still there. So if we balance the system properly—if we do our homework—we keep our mind open and evaluate where we’re at and where we want to go, there isn’t anything that isn’t correctable. Yes, some things are more difficult to correct than others, but there isn’t anything that isn’t correctable.

I think it’s a wonderful time to be alive. It’s a wonderful time to experience things, the technologies and things we’re learning. For those of you who are new that may be a little difficult to understand, but I know for those who have been involved in biological agriculture for 10-20-30-for 50 years. Boy, it’s different than it was back then. It’s exciting, it really is.

Q: When we go south we’re told not to eat the fruits and vegetable because of the parasites and pesticides. What can we do with free trade to prevent that?

A: Well, gee. If I were the president I could solve that I could solve that rascal right now, but I’m not. The issue is, as I tell patients, and the nice thing about being a physician I’ll tell you a little bit about myself, why I became a physician was that as a farmer and just talking to farmers, well, great. I could talk to other farmers, but as a physician I talk to the consumer.

As my good friend, H. W. Hostetler told me a long time ago, The only votte that really counts is that vote that the consumer casts every time they spend a dollar. That’s the vote that really counts. So one of the things we do in our practice is that we educate the patient to be proactive both in their own health and in their community. The only reason Gerber is coming out now with an organic baby food is that the consumer is demanding it. So if you become a better informed buyer of produce—a more educated growing of produce, you change the market. You are the demand. It doesn’t matter what the government does, you still have the right to spend your dollar the way you choose to spend your dollar.

I realize it’s difficult, but I tell you what, it isn’t as difficult as it was 10 years ago. Or 20 years ago, or 40 or whatever. It changes. It is getting better.

Q: When you have patients with heavy metals is there a common source?

A: Often times there is a common source. Mercury is most commonly found because of teeth—putting mercury into the mouth.

Lead is most commonly found in water or paint dust, and most of the old paints were lead. They found that was a problem so they decided to solve that and they put mercury in the paint. Up until 1980. Then they decided, well, maybe we better not do that.

Aluminum is usually from food containers. A lot of places still cook in aluminum cookware. A lot of things are stored in aluminum foil. It maybe in the foods. I may be opening Pandora’s box, but I’m starting to evaluate produce. I’ve sent it in. there’s a lab that’s doing it for me and I’m finding different aluminum levels on produce.

Cadmium. I don’t know. It might be the environment. Sometimes we just don’t know where it comes from. We just have to evaluate where you’re at, what are the possibilities, and sometimes we say, gee. We don’t know where it’s coming from. Let’s treat it anyway.

The bottom line is we have to treat it. Hopefully, we can identify the source, but when we identify the source sometimes we can’t do anything about the source. It’s in the air. Well, okay. We have to do the best we can to keep the body cleaned out of those kinds of things.

Heavy metals are a significant problem, and the game that is played again, with numbers, and that is, they have these levels and if your test comes back and you’re in the normal range and it’s within 90 percentile that’s to be expected, and that’s okay. Wrong.

Just because that’s common doesn’t mean that’s okay. Most of you understand what happens if you have a drippy faucet in your house. Gee, what is a drop of water every 10 seconds? That doesn’t make any difference. But at the end of the month your light bill is high, so that drip, drip, drip, drip turns out to be a lot. It’s the same thing with heavy metal exposure. That little bit of exposure adds up over time and heavy metals don’t stay in the blood. They go to tissue. So if all you do is just a blood test, it doesn’t tell you anything but current exposure. It doesn’t tell you have for reserve in the tissues.

Things like mercury and aluminum go to brain, liver, and kidneys. Lead goes to blood marrow as well as other things. So that’ where you have to look so that’s why we go to stimulated chelation and heavy metal evaluations.

Q: Question about the difference between metals and sulfides. Much more deadly than the oxides.

Yes, in some cases that is true. The problem is that the metal going in is one thing. Metal being exposed to the biological system of the body is a whole nother thing because you have bacteria working on it. You have acids, bases, and a number of other things, so they change.

Mercury, itself is not deadly, but what happens is, it changes and reacts to biological things, and now it’s deadly. So the thing about it is, in nature one thing is constant, and that is change. So, it does change. Metals go and interfere with enzymatic processes. That’s what we have to look at, so the form of the metal, from an exposure point of view—yes. That’s true, but once it gets into the body and starts causing damage it’s deadly.

Q: Is Chelation the only way to deal with heavy metals? Or can we fast and do colonics and other things?

Yes, you can do all those things. But if we look back at the issue of the liver detoxification, for some people, if they’re what are called pathologic detoxifiers in other words, their nutrient system is so out of balance that if they fast they have a very hyperactive phase in the liver which is the initial part of packaging of toxins, but they have deficient phase 2 which is the final detoxification and excretion from the body. If you’re a pathological detoxifier and you fast, you’ll be sicker. So you have to be careful with that. I’m not saying fasting is bad. I’m saying if you are a pathological detoxifier, fasting can make you sicker.

With a lot of heavy metals those things will help, but in many cases you have to put something into the body that is stronger than the bond that is holding those in there. For example, mercury goes to double sulfur bonds. Nerve tissue is one of its primary bonds because of the double sulfur bond, so you have to put something in there that is stronger than that double sulfur bond in nerve tissue, to pull it away.

In some cases, even chelating agents have a difficult time taking it out because the body is holding onto them so tightly. Our experience is that all those things are important to do in addition to detoxification, but we need to put something in there—actually a chelater to pull it out of the body.

There are a number of different of different chelaters, so if you’ve got mercury we don’t use DTA. We use a product called DMPS or DMSA. They’re more specific for mercury.

Q: Will radionics help?

In some cases. I personally do not use radionics in medicine. That’s not allowed. Agriculturally we have found that it can be. We do use homeopathics, and in some people who are extremely heavy metal toxic, where they can’t even tolerate a chelating agent, because chelating agent goes in and attaches to the mercury and you pee it out. If their kidneys or liver can’t handle even that little amount sometimes we’ll go with homeopathics, but I have seen a few people that are so toxic with heavy metal they can’t even tolerate a homeopathic. We have to build the body up to the point where they can even handle a homeopathic anti-heavy metal. Each person is different. I have to deal with that.

Q: Will I comment on IV versus oral chelation.

Yes. A lot of controversy on that. Typically, when you’re talking about oral chelation a lot of people talk about vitamin C, and some herbs and so on as oral chelation. They will do a number of good things. Others talk about EDTA doing IV versus oral. That is probably talked about the most. Okay.

EDTA is a chelating agent that is the most typical thing used that people think of when they think of IV chelation therapy. EDTA does not cross through the gut very well. Probably less than 10%. Interestingly enough there is some research that is showing that there is a possibility that with certain chemicals—for example grapefruit juice—you may be able to increase the amount that crosses into the blood. Now increase, what do I mean by that? Well, I don’t know, 5 or 10%. Instead of 1 or 2%. I haven’t actually seen all the numbers and the studies are sparse, because in this lobby you also have politics, because there are a lot of people doing IV chelation and oral chelation would be a threat to their system.

So we’re looking at it and seeing if we can investigate some of those. Thing is, it takes a lot longer time. For some people it may be more appropriate. The jury is still out. But it is something being investigated. I know there are a lot o claims. The bottom line that I look at with oral chelation is that if I do a 24-hour urine stem, am I actually pulling heavy metals out of the body with that? If I am doing that, results will count.

If I’m not then it’s a lot of smoke and whistles.

MSM is a sulfur product. We use it a lot when we do detox panels. We find people with sulfur deficiencies in their liver detoxification. MSM is the sulfur component that we use. Seems to be very biologically active. What it is, is a derivative of DMSO.

DMSO is a product that was used a number of years ago, originally in the agricultural industries with horses and whatever. It goes right across the skin. You can carry things in.

We use DMSO only for vaginal infections that are not correctable by other things. They’re good products and they have certainly their place.

Q: Symptoms of mercury poisoning, and how do we remove it? Do we have to have our fillings out if we have fillings?

We do not tell people arbitrarily to take their fillings out, because one thing about taking fillings out is it exposes you to more mercury because they’re drilling into that dust.

What we look at symptom-wise can be cardiomyopathy. In fact, Dr. Born who is my boss and partner, at age 42 had a major heart attack. Had five children, a huge medical practice, and he had a heart attack. Went to Mayo Clinic. Came out of bypass surgery and they said, Dr. Born, we made a mistake. You have three months to live. You have cardiomyopathy.

Cardiomyopathy, that means diseased heart muscle itself. He went to Cleveland Clinic. They gave him the same diagnosis. Three months to live. Well, he’s alive and doing very well today. His was mercury, and it was mercury from his teeth. He literally almost died. He was in congestive failure most of the time for a good part of over a year.

Symptoms: Congestive Heart Failure. Heart disease is a symptom. Skin problems; loss of memory. MS type symptoms, Parkinsons’s, digestive issues. Skin rashes, all those kinds of things can be from mercury. Or it can be other heavy metals as well.

Do we take the teeth out then if they have that? Maybe. We have to evaluate the person’s liver’s ability to detoxify things. We have to evaluate the liver’s ability to handle the mercury. The kidney’s ability to handle the mercury. Then we have to evaluate really how much are the teeth leaking, and can they handle having their teeth taken out.

Maybe more importantly than that, we have to find a dentist that we trust to take the mercury out. Because I won’t have any dentist take it out, because if the dentist is not mercury free, he or she does not understand really what they are up against and will not protect my patient well enough.

So you have to have to have a dentist that really understands the poison that is in this person’s mouth, and what is entailed in taking it out. This dentist further has to understand that whatever he or she puts back into the mouth has to be biologically compatible, because just putting another metal back into the mouth is not a good idea.

In some cases gold is good, but there are a lot of different gold alloys. So, we evaluate the patient as well. We can do a blood test to see what kind of biological compatibility you have with various dental materials and then go from there.

For some people it’s not that important. But for somebody who comes to me with chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia it is important. Everything is important to them, so we have to go really slow. Some people it’s really easy to do. It’s an automatic decision. Yeah, they handle it no problem. Other people it’s just one nightmare after another. I literally think about it at night.

Q: Colloidal silver.

I don’t know that much about it. A few people do use it. They do real well with it. I think it is possible a viable antibiotic substitution, but it’s like anything else. Too much of a good thing can be hazardous. I’m not against it.

Q: Is there any correlation between the heavy metals in our bodies and the heavy metals in our soil?

Absolutely. As farmers you should be interested. Industry’s typical game is that as soon as we put a fertilizer label on it, it’s no longer labeled toxic waste by the EPA. We can just apply it to the farm. So a lot of industry uses what are called spent acids. Spent acids mean they first take the acid—the phosphoric or the nitric, and etch metal with it or clean metal with it. So what it does is picks up a lot of the alloys or contaminants in there—lead, arsenic, cadmium, etc. then they sell it to you to apply to your farm.

Number one, the energy level of that is very low and two, you’re adding toxic heavy metals.

My first experience with that is when I worked for Dan Skow about 10 years ago now. We had a field we couldn’t get to produce for some reason. Soil tests wouldn’t show why it wouldn’t do that, and so we evaluated that radionically and found we had lead in the field. So we started investigating that the fertilizer—the 10-30-40 that he was using, if you set it in a test tube for a while it had a nice little ½ inch of grey matter in the bottom of it and come to find out he was getting lead from his fertilizer that he was applying year in and year out. Plants can pick that up and it can be an issue. (end)