Who's Who in alt.paranormal/alt.astrology?
by Dan Kettler
Latest revision Oct. 23, 1999 now introducing DEJA references
to statements that certain people do not see authenticity in
astrology or the paranormal. I am noting, particularly, those
who seemed to be advocates, and now show they are not.
It is important to know who is who, if you are a new reader of alt.paranormal.
Another thing is to read the FAQs, and there are a number of them.
To see exactly how to find all the FAQs, (FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS) about the newsgroup, read:
WHO IS WHAT?:
This is a list proponents and non-proponents of the paranormal who participate in alt.paranormal.
For years previous, most discussion has not been about the paranormal, so it is difficult for the new reader to know which people are proponents of the paranormal, and which are not.
This is not a complete list.
To find out what many of the non-proponents are doing, see:
FAQ of Newsgroup Chaos
NOT PROPONENTS OF THE PARANORMAL OR ASTROLOGY (some skeptics,
and others pseudo-skeptics):
Link that shows Rhianna is not a proponent
Jon Walsh email@example.com
Peter Nyikos firstname.lastname@example.org
Bob Officer email@example.com (Dec. 1998)
Link that shows Bob Officer is not a proponent - - - - Link for more info about Bob Officer
Joseph G. Mitzen
Avital Pilpel firstname.lastname@example.org
Gary L. Burnore email@example.com
Rick Ellis supernews.com
PZ Myers firstname.lastname@example.org
Bill Keesing email@example.com
Paul Schlyter firstname.lastname@example.org
Tom Ray email@example.com
Br. Kurt Van Kuren
Raymond Karczewski firstname.lastname@example.org
Edmond Wollmann EHW@astroconsulting.com
David Lindhauer email@example.com
Pamela Gross firstname.lastname@example.org
Alan Williams email@example.com
Jack Sarfatti firstname.lastname@example.org
Flagship1 of the Paranormal email@example.com
Pete Stapleton firstname.lastname@example.org
David Lindauer email@example.com
You may wonder why so many people who are not proponents of the paranormal
are posting in alt.paranormal?
Get some indication of that at:
Here's another category:
They are called "afa-b bullies" by Raymond Karczewski, and I quote him here:
used by the AFAB bullies. It
is thrown out for no other purpose
than to misdirect reader attention
away from the issue of the post and
redirect it onto some irrelevant
Their tactic is to deceive and misdirect
reader attention with "taken out of
context" remarks and/or by the pointing
out of irrelevant phrases having no direct
bearing upon the core of the issue being
Their purpose is to keep the momentum of
dualism alive in the conditioned consciousness
of human beings to insure their control through
the medium of psychological confusion and
...cowardly predators known as the AFAB
Bullies...demand that their prey lay down
quietly while they "gorge" themselves in
their predatory psychological "feeding frenzy."
Actually, nonresponse is the greatest enemy
of the AFAB Bullies, for they must have the
words of their prey to twist, distort, and
take out of context so their own lack of
originality does not begin to exhibit itself.
...word twisting, misdirection, character assassination
and libel the AFAB bullies habitually engage in.
They are also known as coming from an organization called "skepticult." I coined the word, as signifying those who are pseudo-skeptics -- described on these pages:
"Skepticult" came from the "afa-b" bullies. Not all members, however, are the original persons involved in the movement to dominate afa-b.
For the most part they are deceptive, and degenrate liars about people, writing all sorts of vile lies and forging posts. They also attempt to censor people with FAQs, and by cancelling posts. Their origin is from a group that made life so unbearable for the fans of Art Bell:
(paranormal topics on the radio)
...that the fans left the newsgroup and started a "mailing list," and the founder deleted afa-b. Then it was started again by Tim Hill, and his followers continued to make the environment unfriendly to "fans" of Art Bell.
The best way to verify activities of "afa-b bullies" is to look for posts by Raymond Karczewski, and trace Raymond's accusations to their original posts for vefification, in the archives at:
Other persons listed here, also may be checked for past activites by the same method, using DEJANEWS.
Some accuse me by taking my words out of context, and thereby conveying an innacurate meaning. It is helpful to look at the complete version of the statements quoted by accessing DEJANEWS.
I am obviously a target of such deception because I expose these people. Others, such as Edmond Wollmann and Raymond Karczewski, who do thesame, are targets. The CULTISTS think that by discrediting us, readers will not believe us.
Click here for postings in years previous.
If you cannot find any posts after clicking at the button below, usually that is because I have not posted for months. Then, just click at the above reference for "years previous."
If you read accusations about me, Dan Kettler, and you wish to check my side of the controversy...
Click here to search for Dan Kettler's posts.
Use http://www.deja.com to
check the background after reading my rebuttals, to see that the accusations
about me had been false. Be sure and use the "power search" function.
Some of the "afa-b bullies" are:
digger (aka Blaine Henry) firstname.lastname@example.org -- it was necessary for
person to identify himself completely when he placed his phoney
"spam report" to my Internet Service Provider
Tim Hill (aka "DrTim") (self-proclaimed
of afa-b) (Aug.15,98<email@example.com>)
"Reverend Doctor Tim, BsD, McC" <Dr_Tim@Cowards.Use.Cancelbots.newsguy.com>
<above -- December 1998 -- along with "extra.newsguy.com"
and firstname.lastname@example.org" >
EMPATH (Aug. 14, 1998 <email@example.com>)
Lou Minatti (Aug. 14. 1998 <35D4FD82.firstname.lastname@example.org>
newsfeed.wli.net 188.8.131.52 )
newsfeed.concentric.net (Dec. 1998)
Dan Pressnell email@example.com
Joseph G. Mitzen (Aug. 14. 1998 <MPG.firstname.lastname@example.org>
Nolan (Aug. 15, 1998 posted as <email@example.com>
Jason Matthews (Aug. 15, 1998 NNTP posting host: 184.108.40.206)
Lady Nidiffer Aug 17, 98 <8AZB1.139$ZQ5.firstname.lastname@example.org>
Bill Keesing email@example.com
At times, these people post under other names. As an example, "General Christian" is actually Tim Hill. These are known as "sock puppets" in Internet language. Often enough, one cannot know who the people actually are, and finding who their Internet Service Provider is, can be difficult.
...and they all call themselves "dr" which means, to them, a "dr of bells**t"
See more on cults on the Internet at: