This is a continuation from page 6, with examples of the so-called "skeptic's" writing.
My comments are enclosed between lines, in red, and have "BDK" at the bottom.
From: Polydectes -polydectes@aegisl.demon.co.uk-
Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranormal
Subject: Re: Hale Bopp Object and Newsgroups
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 06:34:02 +0000
Bruce Daniel Kettler -dan@psicounsel.com- writes:
/snip\
Polydectes wrote to BDK:
/snip\ I think there are very good reasons for the way people respond to your interminable imbecility:
# Your execrable habit of moving the goalposts every time your appalling verbiage is demonstrated to be another atrocious exercise in trying to con people into believing the truth.
# Your sentence construction alone demonstrates adequately your derisory ability to think logically./snip\
...However, as long as idiots like you continue to infest usenet groups, many people will feel it is a public duty to respond, merely to protect they [sic] young and impressionable.______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
1. imbecility
2. attempts to con people
3. logical thinking ability lacking
4. idiot
Above, we may note, this sense of having a mission. The so-called "skeptic," cynic, pseudo-skeptic, (or whatever) is indicating a desire to save innocent people, thinking they have a public duty (with this person's posting in the newsgroups designed for discussion among those who find ESP and UFO information valid). It's part of the make-up of a cult mentality to think of the group's ideas as right while those outside are, supposedly, dangerous, leaving the group and everyone in it with some moral obligation to eliminate so-called "wrongs" and to make society "right." It's not much different, in essence, than any other unrealistic fanaticism.
BDK
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-- Polydectes
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The above writing of Polydectes,
is what someone described as an attack on a person's character.(click
here)
BDK
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Newsgroups: alt.paranet.ufo,alt.paranormal,alt.conspiracy,
alt.paranet.paranormal,alt.alien.visitors,alt.alien.research,
alt.conspiracy.area51,alt.ufo.reports,talk.religion.newage
Subject: BEWARE: Commercial Advertising in Usenet Postings
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 11:09:27 +0000
Sender: Polydectes Some people may have noticed this published by
Kettler:
This is an advertisement to lure you to a web
site where you will be "invited" to part with $35 in order to have a "psychic
reading". You will need to give your credit card number or to pay an extra
28.5% ($10) [US FUNDS - bdk] /snip\ to be billed via your telephone bill.
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The above, about an extra "28.5%"
is incorrect. There never has been any requirement to pay more without
a credit card.
This widely distributed "BEWARE,"
and accusation of commercial advertising in the particular USENET postings
shown, is false. It cannot be commercial advertising without some
mention of a product or service for sale in the ad. I have commercial services
at the site, but they are not mentioned in the USENET postings this
person referred to.
BDK
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Read Kettler's ravings in these newsgroups and
make up your own mind as to whether or not you wish to let him have your
credit card details.
The above writing of Polydectes is another
example of this SKEP-TI-CULT'S usual habit of character assassination,
implying dishonesty or irresponsibility. In fact, the statement has no
basis of fact, as FIRST VIRTUAL (tm) does not require that the merchant
obtain a credit card number, and that is apparent in the details placed
at this World Wide Web Site.
BDK
Mr. Wollmann, in an earlier writing,
had something to say about people of this group, and it had to do with
esteem. His writing contains much about
the so-called "skeptic's" lack of self worth, or esteem.
Mr. Wollman's reference to an attempt
at "hacking away" at the esteem of others
seems, to me, to be shown by the writing above.
The True Believer, a book
from the 1950's by Eric Hoffer, has much useful information about fanatics.
In the chapter, "Factors Promoting
Self Sacrifice," we read the following:
I don't believe that all the material
in the USENET archives for investigation into this "SKEP-TI-CULT,"
cult mentality, could be covered in the lifetime of one person (as far
as lifetimes generally extend these days).
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:
To the so-called "skeptics," who have given me so much
material to write about, that it's now becoming book length. With each
royalty check, I will give my thanks to you all.
To those interested in so-called "paranormal" (It's really
normal.) phenomena, your continued discussions in newsgroups has provided
much valuable insight and information.
MAY THIS BE:
...successful, with widespread dissemination of the information
through both electronic and printed media, so people will gain insight
to effectively deal with people of the "skeptic" mentality without so much
trial and error
...inspiring, eye opening, and an experience of freedom
from the cage that minds of the so-called "skeptic," "true believer" mentality,
are kept in
THE TRUE BELIEVER by Eric Hoffer, published 1951, Harper
and Row.
Bruce Kettler (aka Bruce Daniel Kettler)
CONTENTS OF PAGES, other than copying excerpts from books,
Copyright 1996--2001 ----- Dan Kettler (aka Bruce Daniel Kettler)
Writing of this SUBJECT: "Skeptics," what they do
and why has been placed in various USENET newgroups. It is, here, being
revised. To see the original version, select DEJA
and use the search functions.
then select
Scientific Study of Psychic Phenomena
/snip\
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--
Polydectes
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the writing of Eric Hoffer,
The True Believer, Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements
The fanatic is perpetually
incomplete and insecure. He cannot generate self-assurance out of his individual
resources -- out of his rejected self -- but finds it only by clinging
passionately to whatever support he happens to embrace.
In the chapter, "Unifying Agents":
Whence come these unreasonable
hatreds, and why their unifying effect? They are an expression of desperate
effort to suppress an awareness of our inadequacy, worthlessness, guilt
and other shortcomings of the self. Self-contempt is here transmuted into
hatred of others -- and there is a most determined and persistent effort
to mask this switch. Obviously, the most effective way of doing this is
to find others, as many as possible, who hate as we do. Here, more than
anywhere else we need general consent, and much of our proselytizing consists
perhaps in infecting others not with our brand of faith but with our particular
brand of unreasonable hatred.
"Skeptics" What they do and why
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