Continued "Skeptic" writing of Kristine Campbell.
See the year 2000 exchange with Raymond Karczewski, here.
to advertise you web page as a serious place where serious science takes place is ludicrous. it is a silly page, featuring silly people, run by a silly person.
Regarding "serious science," that must be a response to my signature in postings, shown below: S.S.O.P.P. It is a "serious place where serious science takes place." As one example,
"Scientific Study of Psychic
Phenomena"
is
just that
To see these LINKS to Scientific Study, click on the underlined:
The "Instant Links" and other pages, on the other hand cannot be thoroughly checked, and I've placed a disclaimer on that page and others, that all the links are not necessarily endorsed by Psi Counsel, Inc., or by myself personally.As for the psychic readings, the results of the readings, and the satisfaction of the clients with the psychic's ability to know and understand these people, are carefully monitored.
The reader may examine the pages to make their own determination. I doubt that your writing will sway anyone.
BDK
CONTINUED:
...see how many you can match with the list above
outlining the tactics of all the skeptics:
posted in afab (among others), by mr. kettler,
on nov 23rd, in response to glen
when glen asked that bruce stop posting in afab. [afa-b - alt.fan.art-bell]
From my observation, it seems alt.fan.art-bell
was started by actual "fans." Later, a new mob took over and changed the
FAQ'S (Frequently Asked Questions). I've been asked why I post pro-paranormal
to a newsgroup like alt.fan.art-bell. It's absurd! It would have been much
more realistic for them to have started a newsgroup with a name like "alt.basher.art-bell."
Art Bell is not a fanatic with the label, "skeptic."
Everyone is skeptical, but I am referring to the "skeptic" label , here.
No, "alt.fan.art-bell" is not the title of
a "skeptic" newsgroup. There are many anti newsgroups, but "fan"
is not part of the title used.
If people who contribute to alt.fan.art-bell
want to be part of a "skeptic" newsgroup, they can start a newsgroups called
"alt.basher.art-bell" or something like that. If they want to maintain
the "fan" title, no-one is compelled to consider it a "skeptic" newsgroup,
no matter how many skeptics post there, or what the FAQ'S have written
in them.
BDK nevermind that there are several letters on the
web site from mr. kettler's fans that demand people to stop posting on
"their" ng....and quite a few from the very same, emailed directly to me
and my postmaster, threatening me if i don't stop posting on "their" ng
(i was surprised to learn that the f word can be used in so many creative
ways. you and your folks over in alt.paranormal are real charmers, bruce).
anyway here was part of the post:
I think you should have your head examined. [quoting
BDK]
thanks, bruce...my debate teacher in high school
should have taught us that one.
Again, quoting out of context is one of the methods
of the SKEP-TI-CULT.
SCORE *ONE* for:
3. Quotes out of context
The "...my debate teacher..." bit makes it look
as if my only "argument" had been "...have your head examined" when I'd
pointed out the above.
Thank you, Kristine, for showing yet another proof
of my descriptions being "right-on."
Again, more distortion from the SKEP-TI-CULT
Art Bell is far from being a cultist so-called
"skeptic." Date: 20 Nov 1996 08:57:43 GMT
i responded to a post by bruce who said not to
knock shramek...that chuck was right, and there could be a conspiracy...
bruce wrote:
Seems that Chuck Schramek has scooped everyone
else. He HAS the image. Where is yours?
Don't knock him until you have the facts. Remember,
you could be in his shoes!
I never wrote the above, after "bruce wrote:"
and the USENET archives may be accessed to verify that fact.
BDK so i replied:
<snip>
bruce <snip> and he corrected my spelling errors
I never corrected Kristine's, or anyone else's
spelling errors.
BDK <snip>
i have no objection to you stating your position,
or believing in anything you choose...what i do object to is you pushing
your beliefs onto those who don't care.
i object to nasty email from your fans demanding
that i don't post in your little ng...
<snip>
...and i would appreciate it if you could pass
this courtesy along to the morons who defend your good name.
BDK you continually spout goofy paranormal theories,
and when someone says "gee, that's stupid" you holler skeptic, skepticult
and challenge the person to disprove your insidious babble. skeptic (as
defined by the random house dictionary, page 1232): a person who questions
the validity or authenticity of something purporting to be factual.
1. Lying
BDK
kristine
As I've written, I respect true skeptics, those
who are according to the dictionary meaning
"Kristine" writes: "will you go away"?
Not only will I not go away, but your
words will not go away. They will
remain at this WEB site,
You may distort my meanings, and rewrite what
I wrote ON USENET. However, both people
This pattern, or common practice of rewriting
what another person wrote is indicated by the
These pages will not get changed around like my
writing does on USENET, when the distorted,
The proof of what was written, actually, and in
full context, is in the USENET ARCHIVES.
BDK Note:
There are many examples of the type of writing
shown above from the SKEP-TI-CULT mentality,
with verifiable quotes
To see this so-called debate,
from Usenet postings Search
Usenet There are search features
for subject titles, word
As recently as April 2000, Kristine Campbell, or another person using
that name, again renewed a discussion of conflict, and that is shown here.
Here is the Search
Engines page
Just a little experience and investigation on
USENET will reveal that what I'm giving examples of here are NOT
broad
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"Attacking the persons' overall character
in a lame
attempt to make them smaller than the skeptics."
"alt.fan.art-bell" (aka: "afab") is
not the proper title of a "skeptic" newsgroup? A "fan" is an enthusiast.
If a person is a fan of Rush Limbaugh, do they ridicule what Rush Limbaugh
believes and talks about? They may express disagreement occasionally, but
if their basic views were opposite, they would not be "fans."
Well, if someone calls alt.fan.art-bell
a "skeptic" newsgroup, and criticizes me for allegedly being in an inappropriate
place to tell of what I heard on the Art Bell show, and further misrepresent
my writing in other ways, they should have their head examined, or, at
the very least they should check out their interpretation of common English
Language usage, so they may discover what "fan" means.
From: dkettler@ix.netcom.com(Bruce Daniel Kettler
More incorrect statements about what
the other, supposedly, wrote. I'm losing count of the number of times you
do exactly what I have written this cult does.
Another incorrect statement from the
SKEP-TI-CULT.
"Pushing [my] beliefs"? I am writing
in alt.paranormal, alt.fan.art-bell, and other similar newsgroups. My posting
to alt.fan.art-bell contains subjects that are on the ART BELL show. Courtney
Brown appeared there, and spoke of RV - Remote Viewing. Aliens were discussed.
All three are the SUBJECT TITLE AND CONTENT OF MY POSTS you are referring
to. "C.Brown--RV--Aliens" This is a "fan" thing, not an anti thing.
I don't have what you call "fans." I don't
know who is defending my name with e-mail to you.
That definition does not include:
i am proud to be a skeptic,
thankyouverymuch, and now will you go away?
2. insulting behavior
3. cynicism
4. Character
assassination
5. Ridiculing
6. Calling people "stupid" for their beliefs
7. Misrepresentation
I have never challenged anyone to disprove
what you refer to as "paranormal theories."
you show, above. However, the typical actions
of the SKEP-TI-CULT, which you show many
excellent examples of, are a lot different than
skepticism.
and people will continue to visit them for a
long, long time, looking to you as an example of this
mentality you represent. You should watch the
WEB COUNTER, and consider that some of the
people at this WEB site will read your nonsense.
who frequent USENET, and those who do not, many
MORE people will continue to know of
these pages about "skeptics," so-called, and
they will read this.
document sTARBABY
lied-about, mis-quotes are included with "replies"
of so-called "skeptics."
from those who have, so-called, "debated" me.
searches, etc. It's often best to use
a name, as people change their e-mail address.
over-generalizations. The examples are
characteristic of a vast majority of these people who call themselves
"skeptics."
LINK ** click here for GOOGLE link
DK: Click at link ** for complete text that the above is quoted from.